Comments on: Knicks to Miss Out on John Wall Sweepstakes; Hornets Fire Scott http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/12/knicks-to-miss-out-on-wall-sweepstakes/ Adam Zagoria on hoops, recruiting and rock 'n' roll Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:55:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: AllBasketballReview http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/12/knicks-to-miss-out-on-wall-sweepstakes/comment-page-1/#comment-6851 AllBasketballReview Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:02:29 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=24643#comment-6851 I wondered if this has every happend in another sport... both New York professional basketball teams have traded away the number one pick in the 2010 draft. The New York Knicks and New York Liberty both have made trades that give away their 2010 first round picks in trades. The Liberty pick has already turned into the #1 overall pick. If the Knicks pick does as well, would that mark the first time in history where two basketball teams from the same city have done that? If that happens, Amazing. I wondered if this has every happend in another sport… both New York professional basketball teams have traded away the number one pick in the 2010 draft. The New York Knicks and New York Liberty both have made trades that give away their 2010 first round picks in trades. The Liberty pick has already turned into the #1 overall pick. If the Knicks pick does as well, would that mark the first time in history where two basketball teams from the same city have done that? If that happens, Amazing.

]]> By: blasphemy http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/12/knicks-to-miss-out-on-wall-sweepstakes/comment-page-1/#comment-6832 blasphemy Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:53:03 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=24643#comment-6832 I dont think we are saying he is the bestestest (once again, that darn loud minority), but he is VERY VERY good. Btw, A LOT of the media agrees. In fact, I would go as far as to say the media drives these comparisons as much as the fans, if not more. I dont think we are saying he is the bestestest (once again, that darn loud minority), but he is VERY VERY good. Btw, A LOT of the media agrees. In fact, I would go as far as to say the media drives these comparisons as much as the fans, if not more.

]]> By: blasphemy http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/12/knicks-to-miss-out-on-wall-sweepstakes/comment-page-1/#comment-6831 blasphemy Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:48:12 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=24643#comment-6831 (Not a facetious comment) Other than the "loud" minority of Kentucky Fans who think we will go undefeated (which I hope but don't think will happen) Most Uk fans are not pressuring John Wall any more than the media is. Seirously, writer after writer, columnist after columnist are picking Wall to go #1 in the next draft. He is that good, sorry for all the people who are "unimpressed" lol. Sorry he couldn't score the 210 points and get a quadruple-triple for you to be impressed. Bad competition, yes, but everytime I see him play, I've seen about 12 of his games, (which includes the ONE he has played at UK and the TWO he played on ESPNU) he is very consistent and always brings another dimension. (Facetiousness...) Talking about his "mistakes" which strangely he could only summon ONE direct example and say somehow, that his team sucked, 16-12, and playing in the state championship game. Yes, ChadT put BOTH of those examples together and somehow skipped right over the championship game and still concluded J. Wall sucked. We call that a logic fail. Also, Wall has been hyped WELL before he even stepped FOOT on UK's campus, WELL before last March, WELLLLLLLL before Last season even BEGAN. If you keep up with recruiting, you know these things. ChadT obviously does not. Have good a day people. (Not a facetious comment)

Other than the “loud” minority of Kentucky Fans who think we will go undefeated (which I hope but don’t think will happen) Most Uk fans are not pressuring John Wall any more than the media is. Seirously, writer after writer, columnist after columnist are picking Wall to go #1 in the next draft. He is that good, sorry for all the people who are “unimpressed” lol. Sorry he couldn’t score the 210 points and get a quadruple-triple for you to be impressed. Bad competition, yes, but everytime I see him play, I’ve seen about 12 of his games, (which includes the ONE he has played at UK and the TWO he played on ESPNU) he is very consistent and always brings another dimension.

(Facetiousness…)
Talking about his “mistakes” which strangely he could only summon ONE direct example and say somehow, that his team sucked, 16-12, and playing in the state championship game. Yes, ChadT put BOTH of those examples together and somehow skipped right over the championship game and still concluded J. Wall sucked. We call that a logic fail. Also, Wall has been hyped WELL before he even stepped FOOT on UK’s campus, WELL before last March, WELLLLLLLL before Last season even BEGAN. If you keep up with recruiting, you know these things. ChadT obviously does not. Have good a day people.

]]> By: blasphemy http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/12/knicks-to-miss-out-on-wall-sweepstakes/comment-page-1/#comment-6830 blasphemy Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:30:56 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=24643#comment-6830 The normal commentors here know I'm a huge UK fan. But your post seriously needs at least a one line space, somewhere, so I can take a breath. Seriously. Seems reasonable other than that. The normal commentors here know I’m a huge UK fan. But your post seriously needs at least a one line space, somewhere, so I can take a breath. Seriously. Seems reasonable other than that.

]]> By: ukfan12 http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/12/knicks-to-miss-out-on-wall-sweepstakes/comment-page-1/#comment-6829 ukfan12 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:16:50 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=24643#comment-6829 ChadT seriously? I stumbled onto this site and after I read your comments, I felt compelled to respond. Devan Downey, Kenny Bonyton, Larry Drew, Dexter Strickland, Chris Warren, Courtney Fortson, Jerome Dyson, and Kemba Walker are all very good players he'll be playing against this year and I'm know I've left out a few. The SEC has 3 teams ranked in the top 20. Vandy will be good, probably ranked and in the tourney and so will Ole Miss. The ACC only has 4 teams ranked and the Big East has 5. It's kind of embarrassing that the Big East has 5 more teams in the entire conference and only 2 more teams ranked than the "terrible" SEC. The SEC has 7 teams who recieved votes to be ranked. The Big East totals 7. And the ACC has 7 as well. Know your facts kid. Derrick Favors, Sheron Collins are two of only maybe 5 players that could be better than Wall in all of college basketball. And Collins will obviously not be drafted anywhere near Wall. I'm not saying Wall will be Player of the Year or anything but the kid will be very very good. Who cares what he did in high school? If he has an off night (which I doubt will happen often) this team has so much depth that it doesn't matter. Jhawk4 is right that you can't hype a player who hasn't played a game yet but you also can't trash that same player who has dominated the only competition he's played. Just watch UK this season because if I were a betting man then I'd say you're in for something really special. John Wall would have been 1 or 2 in this past draft if he were eligible. There's a reason why scouts like him. And I'm sure he'll demonstrate that all year long. ChadT seriously? I stumbled onto this site and after I read your comments, I felt compelled to respond. Devan Downey, Kenny Bonyton, Larry Drew, Dexter Strickland, Chris Warren, Courtney Fortson, Jerome Dyson, and Kemba Walker are all very good players he’ll be playing against this year and I’m know I’ve left out a few. The SEC has 3 teams ranked in the top 20. Vandy will be good, probably ranked and in the tourney and so will Ole Miss. The ACC only has 4 teams ranked and the Big East has 5. It’s kind of embarrassing that the Big East has 5 more teams in the entire conference and only 2 more teams ranked than the “terrible” SEC. The SEC has 7 teams who recieved votes to be ranked. The Big East totals 7. And the ACC has 7 as well. Know your facts kid. Derrick Favors, Sheron Collins are two of only maybe 5 players that could be better than Wall in all of college basketball. And Collins will obviously not be drafted anywhere near Wall. I’m not saying Wall will be Player of the Year or anything but the kid will be very very good. Who cares what he did in high school? If he has an off night (which I doubt will happen often) this team has so much depth that it doesn’t matter. Jhawk4 is right that you can’t hype a player who hasn’t played a game yet but you also can’t trash that same player who has dominated the only competition he’s played. Just watch UK this season because if I were a betting man then I’d say you’re in for something really special. John Wall would have been 1 or 2 in this past draft if he were eligible. There’s a reason why scouts like him. And I’m sure he’ll demonstrate that all year long.

]]> By: ChadT http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/12/knicks-to-miss-out-on-wall-sweepstakes/comment-page-1/#comment-6828 ChadT Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:17:58 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=24643#comment-6828 Nope, not impressed. I wasn't impressed with his teams 16-12 record in high school last season, or when when the dribbled the ball off of his leg out of bounds in the state title game (CHOKE) to let the the other team hit the game winning shot. The kid is fast, has no outside game at all, and he was dishing out dimes to 6'10 Cousins while the other team didn't have a starter over 6'5. He WON' T be tested in the SEC, because there aren't any guards in that conference that will be able to shut him down. Put him in the Big East or the ACC and he wouldn't be anything special. Top PICK? I'll believe it when I see it. Nope, not impressed. I wasn’t impressed with his teams 16-12 record in high school last season, or when when the dribbled the ball off of his leg out of bounds in the state title game (CHOKE) to let the the other team hit the game winning shot.

The kid is fast, has no outside game at all, and he was dishing out dimes to 6’10 Cousins while the other team didn’t have a starter over 6’5.

He WON’ T be tested in the SEC, because there aren’t any guards in that conference that will be able to shut him down. Put him in the Big East or the ACC and he wouldn’t be anything special.

Top PICK? I’ll believe it when I see it.

]]> By: jhawk4 http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/12/knicks-to-miss-out-on-wall-sweepstakes/comment-page-1/#comment-6827 jhawk4 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:03:02 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=24643#comment-6827 The Jazz already have Deron Williams, why would they need Wall too? and ill agree its hard to say he wasn't impressive in that first exhibition game, he really was, but i wouldn't get too excited about stats vs D2 opponents. i would also advise UK fans to stop proclaiming this kid as the best point guard to ever pick up a basketball, talk about pressure. geez. we have our first lebron james comparison. cut him a little slack if he isnt lebron right away. The Jazz already have Deron Williams, why would they need Wall too?

and ill agree its hard to say he wasn’t impressive in that first exhibition game, he really was, but i wouldn’t get too excited about stats vs D2 opponents.

i would also advise UK fans to stop proclaiming this kid as the best point guard to ever pick up a basketball, talk about pressure. geez. we have our first lebron james comparison. cut him a little slack if he isnt lebron right away.

]]> By: m_cat96 http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/12/knicks-to-miss-out-on-wall-sweepstakes/comment-page-1/#comment-6826 m_cat96 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:14:36 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=24643#comment-6826 Not impressed ? 27 points / 9 assists. You can hate all you want but you are the only moron out there who doesn't think Wall is a Top 3 pick. Is that why Jerry Meyer at Rivals said the only player in the last 6 years to come out of high school who is better is King James ? My guess is ChadT is really Chris Wallace, GM for the Grizzlies. Or is that you Isiah Thomas ? The SEC is much tougher than they are getting credit for. They had 4 of the 15 youngest rosters in the NCAA last year, and almost all those kids return. Vanderbilt will be very good. So will Ole Miss, Missississippi St, Tennessee, Florida, and South Carolina. And just in case that isn't enough, UK plays UNC, UConn, Louisville, and IU. They will have a Top 10 RPI, and at least a 14-15 teams they play this year will make the tourney. Not impressed ? 27 points / 9 assists. You can hate all you want but you are the only moron out there who doesn’t think Wall is a Top 3 pick. Is that why Jerry Meyer at Rivals said the only player in the last 6 years to come out of high school who is better is King James ? My guess is ChadT is really Chris Wallace, GM for the Grizzlies. Or is that you Isiah Thomas ?

The SEC is much tougher than they are getting credit for. They had 4 of the 15 youngest rosters in the NCAA last year, and almost all those kids return. Vanderbilt will be very good. So will Ole Miss, Missississippi St, Tennessee, Florida, and South Carolina. And just in case that isn’t enough, UK plays UNC, UConn, Louisville, and IU. They will have a Top 10 RPI, and at least a 14-15 teams they play this year will make the tourney.

]]> By: ChadT http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/11/12/knicks-to-miss-out-on-wall-sweepstakes/comment-page-1/#comment-6824 ChadT Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:06:02 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=24643#comment-6824 "There’s just one problem." Wall has only played ONE college game and people are already tabbing him as the next great thing. I watched him against Clairol and I'm not impressed. Stiff college defenses will expose Wall, but too bad we will never see it until UK gets blown out of the second round of the tournament in March because of the terrible SEC conference. “There’s just one problem.”

Wall has only played ONE college game and people are already tabbing him as the next great thing. I watched him against Clairol and I’m not impressed. Stiff college defenses will expose Wall, but too bad we will never see it until UK gets blown out of the second round of the tournament in March because of the terrible SEC conference.

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