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		<title>By: pastaboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pastaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Lw will qualify ....... and I think we&#039;ll see somone step up . My prediction has been Witherspoon to step into a role like CDR did as a 2nd year guy . He&#039;s got the physical talent .... don&#039;t know about his mental ability to dedicate himself to the game yet. Also Sallie could be ready to play some top caliber ball ....we&#039;ll see . Ew ....Sallie ...Lw ..... Coleman ......and  Witherspoon .....  not bad .......also If Pastner runs alot of the Arizona 1/4 offense ....which he has indicated he would ...remember the 1st outlet in that  fast break is a big man down low or on the wing ....Garcia could really thrive in this offense .  Now wasn&#039;t that nice ...you quit harping on Cal so I can quit defending him and we can talk Tiger ball .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Lw will qualify &#8230;&#8230;. and I think we&#8217;ll see somone step up . My prediction has been Witherspoon to step into a role like CDR did as a 2nd year guy . He&#8217;s got the physical talent &#8230;. don&#8217;t know about his mental ability to dedicate himself to the game yet. Also Sallie could be ready to play some top caliber ball &#8230;.we&#8217;ll see . Ew &#8230;.Sallie &#8230;Lw &#8230;.. Coleman &#8230;&#8230;and  Witherspoon &#8230;..  not bad &#8230;&#8230;.also If Pastner runs alot of the Arizona 1/4 offense &#8230;.which he has indicated he would &#8230;remember the 1st outlet in that  fast break is a big man down low or on the wing &#8230;.Garcia could really thrive in this offense .  Now wasn&#8217;t that nice &#8230;you quit harping on Cal so I can quit defending him and we can talk Tiger ball .</p>
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		<title>By: memtiger87</title>
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		<dc:creator>memtiger87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve already forgot Calipari, he is yesterday&#039;s news.  And, as I have said, I wouldn&#039;t trade him for Pastner.  No sour grapes, but I like the direction we are heading.

Unfortunately, I do agree with you on one point.  Many marquee players don&#039;t want to play for a new coach.  He is unproven and they don&#039;t want to risk their potential NBA careers with an unproven coach.  Pastner needs to get a season under his belt which demonstrates that he plays a style they desire and that he is able to get them to the next level.  And we both know that most of the guys getting division 1 scholarships think they will be pros.  We also know that this isn&#039;t the case, but you could never tell these guys that.  He&#039;ll have to prove he is a winner and that he is a guy worth playing for.  

About the investigations:  I think we will have no sanctions.  I don&#039;t know that and cannot say as a fact that we won&#039;t.  A young recruit thinks the same way.  Why risk signing with Memphis when you might have sanctions when you can go to another top program that isn&#039;t having these problems.  These guys watch Sportscenter.

Calipari&#039;s gone.  I don&#039;t have good things to say about him due to the way he left Memphis.  He is irrelevant anyway.  The past is the past.  The future is Josh Pastner.  I think he will do very well.  He&#039;s locked down one huge recruit (Barton) and a top 20 in Lat Williams.  I don&#039;t know if he&#039;ll qualify or not.  Memphis really needs him to qualify or they are very weak in the PF and C positions.  Whether he qualifies or not, they have what they have and will have to make the best of the situation at hand.   I&#039;m a realist.  This isn&#039;t a NC caliber team.   Being a realist doesn&#039;t mean you aren&#039;t a fan.  I&#039;ll be a fan if they are 19-14 and NIT bound.  I see them as better than that, but neither of us know until the season is played.  They could gel into a very good team, but with last year&#039;s four best players gone, it certainly will be a mystery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve already forgot Calipari, he is yesterday&#8217;s news.  And, as I have said, I wouldn&#8217;t trade him for Pastner.  No sour grapes, but I like the direction we are heading.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I do agree with you on one point.  Many marquee players don&#8217;t want to play for a new coach.  He is unproven and they don&#8217;t want to risk their potential NBA careers with an unproven coach.  Pastner needs to get a season under his belt which demonstrates that he plays a style they desire and that he is able to get them to the next level.  And we both know that most of the guys getting division 1 scholarships think they will be pros.  We also know that this isn&#8217;t the case, but you could never tell these guys that.  He&#8217;ll have to prove he is a winner and that he is a guy worth playing for.  </p>
<p>About the investigations:  I think we will have no sanctions.  I don&#8217;t know that and cannot say as a fact that we won&#8217;t.  A young recruit thinks the same way.  Why risk signing with Memphis when you might have sanctions when you can go to another top program that isn&#8217;t having these problems.  These guys watch Sportscenter.</p>
<p>Calipari&#8217;s gone.  I don&#8217;t have good things to say about him due to the way he left Memphis.  He is irrelevant anyway.  The past is the past.  The future is Josh Pastner.  I think he will do very well.  He&#8217;s locked down one huge recruit (Barton) and a top 20 in Lat Williams.  I don&#8217;t know if he&#8217;ll qualify or not.  Memphis really needs him to qualify or they are very weak in the PF and C positions.  Whether he qualifies or not, they have what they have and will have to make the best of the situation at hand.   I&#8217;m a realist.  This isn&#8217;t a NC caliber team.   Being a realist doesn&#8217;t mean you aren&#8217;t a fan.  I&#8217;ll be a fan if they are 19-14 and NIT bound.  I see them as better than that, but neither of us know until the season is played.  They could gel into a very good team, but with last year&#8217;s four best players gone, it certainly will be a mystery.</p>
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		<title>By: pastaboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pastaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard the Ncaa meeting lasted a couple of hours rather than the expected 8 hours ....and that the Ncaa guys spent most of the time apologizing to Cal and  R.C. There will be no vacating of anything ..... then what will you blame Cal for ? .... Personally I think the recruits were used to seeing Josh as that young recruiter who does all the bizarre stuff like calling at 7:00 am etc.....every program has a cheerleader type recruiter .....that was Josh&#039;s job . They couldn&#039;t make the switch mentally to seeing him as the head coach . Its like going to your grocery store and seeing that the bag boy has been promoted to store manager ....its off setting to say the least.  If Cal had refused to sign Dodson or Cousins or even Wall ....do you honestly think they would have gone to Memphis this year? Not a chance ..... now how is that Cal&#039;s fault ?  The sooner you guys forget Cal and quit whining the better off Memphis basketball will be .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard the Ncaa meeting lasted a couple of hours rather than the expected 8 hours &#8230;.and that the Ncaa guys spent most of the time apologizing to Cal and  R.C. There will be no vacating of anything &#8230;.. then what will you blame Cal for ? &#8230;. Personally I think the recruits were used to seeing Josh as that young recruiter who does all the bizarre stuff like calling at 7:00 am etc&#8230;..every program has a cheerleader type recruiter &#8230;..that was Josh&#8217;s job . They couldn&#8217;t make the switch mentally to seeing him as the head coach . Its like going to your grocery store and seeing that the bag boy has been promoted to store manager &#8230;.its off setting to say the least.  If Cal had refused to sign Dodson or Cousins or even Wall &#8230;.do you honestly think they would have gone to Memphis this year? Not a chance &#8230;.. now how is that Cal&#8217;s fault ?  The sooner you guys forget Cal and quit whining the better off Memphis basketball will be .</p>
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		<title>By: memtiger87</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I trust Pastner.  I was an 18 year old top recruit with multiple opportunities, I would most likely go elsewhere right now.  The real good recruits have been played multiple times by now.  Why should they trust anyone?  And frankly, no one really knows the outcome of the investigation.  Most people in the know believe that there will be no present or future sanctions against Memphis.  But like anything else decided by other people and totally out of your control, anything can happen.

Also, the name is Nolan Dennis.  He and his mom decided to go elsewhere before a coach was named.   Cousins and Dodson had already been contacted by Calipari when he was going through his incredibly difficult decision.  They were gone.  Xavier Henry still can&#039;t make up his mind, and his dad controls them anyway.  He is one and done and Kansas was a good place to be.  They have the best shot at a championship run, and there is no doubt what a good tournament can do for your stock.  Just ask Tyreke Evans, and particularly Derrick Rose.

Memphis did over reach when they mentioned their &quot;wow&quot; hire.  They couldn&#039;t get anyone to come into this situation.  No recruits, lost four starter.  You are coming into a team that had been winning and had to start over.  Even with the huge sums of money offered, they couldn&#039;t get their hire.  In my opinion, Mike Anderson would have been the man.  With Calipari stalling so he can line up his new team, we lost our shot at him.  I think the would have gone to Memphis with an annual 1.5 million dollar raise.   They did have to settle with someone other than a wow hire, and it was Josh Pastner.  

I had my doubts and was disappointed.  But his optimism, enthusiasm, and work ethic sold me.  I am very excited about our program and I see very good things for us.  You don&#039;t and that&#039;s OK, it is your opinion.

Why the big deal on Joe Jackson.  He is a very good player, but he isn&#039;t a Derrick Rose or Tyreke Evans.  He is smaller and will be a very good point guard, but will not control games.  Will Barton can take over games and we have him signed.  The number one SG in the country!  Not a bad pick up!  I think Jackson will sign with us, but you are right, he may in Kentucky.  I won&#039;t say a bad thing about him just like every other possible recruit that signed elsewhere.  If he likes the opportunity elsewhere, I wish him luck.

My expectations for next year are limited.  I see us as an NCAA tourney team and not much more.  Anything else would be incredible overachieving.  I&#039;m not happy with those expectations, but if you think this team can win the NCAA tourney, I&#039;d say you are high.  And, yes I am saying poor Josh.  He came in late in the game, had to find players to fill a team and deal with the dark cloud of an NCAA investigation that made national news.  While Calipari isn&#039;t &quot;under investigation&quot;, he was in charge of the program.  It may be his vacated second final four.  If you don&#039;t see a trend here, you are blind.  Calipari is old news.  Pastner is the new head coach.   He has picked up an elite recruit for 2010, one that Calipari wanted very badly.  No excuses for 2010, he has a full year to recruit and we&#039;ll just have to see how he does.  It looks like a good start to me....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I trust Pastner.  I was an 18 year old top recruit with multiple opportunities, I would most likely go elsewhere right now.  The real good recruits have been played multiple times by now.  Why should they trust anyone?  And frankly, no one really knows the outcome of the investigation.  Most people in the know believe that there will be no present or future sanctions against Memphis.  But like anything else decided by other people and totally out of your control, anything can happen.</p>
<p>Also, the name is Nolan Dennis.  He and his mom decided to go elsewhere before a coach was named.   Cousins and Dodson had already been contacted by Calipari when he was going through his incredibly difficult decision.  They were gone.  Xavier Henry still can&#8217;t make up his mind, and his dad controls them anyway.  He is one and done and Kansas was a good place to be.  They have the best shot at a championship run, and there is no doubt what a good tournament can do for your stock.  Just ask Tyreke Evans, and particularly Derrick Rose.</p>
<p>Memphis did over reach when they mentioned their &#8220;wow&#8221; hire.  They couldn&#8217;t get anyone to come into this situation.  No recruits, lost four starter.  You are coming into a team that had been winning and had to start over.  Even with the huge sums of money offered, they couldn&#8217;t get their hire.  In my opinion, Mike Anderson would have been the man.  With Calipari stalling so he can line up his new team, we lost our shot at him.  I think the would have gone to Memphis with an annual 1.5 million dollar raise.   They did have to settle with someone other than a wow hire, and it was Josh Pastner.  </p>
<p>I had my doubts and was disappointed.  But his optimism, enthusiasm, and work ethic sold me.  I am very excited about our program and I see very good things for us.  You don&#8217;t and that&#8217;s OK, it is your opinion.</p>
<p>Why the big deal on Joe Jackson.  He is a very good player, but he isn&#8217;t a Derrick Rose or Tyreke Evans.  He is smaller and will be a very good point guard, but will not control games.  Will Barton can take over games and we have him signed.  The number one SG in the country!  Not a bad pick up!  I think Jackson will sign with us, but you are right, he may in Kentucky.  I won&#8217;t say a bad thing about him just like every other possible recruit that signed elsewhere.  If he likes the opportunity elsewhere, I wish him luck.</p>
<p>My expectations for next year are limited.  I see us as an NCAA tourney team and not much more.  Anything else would be incredible overachieving.  I&#8217;m not happy with those expectations, but if you think this team can win the NCAA tourney, I&#8217;d say you are high.  And, yes I am saying poor Josh.  He came in late in the game, had to find players to fill a team and deal with the dark cloud of an NCAA investigation that made national news.  While Calipari isn&#8217;t &#8220;under investigation&#8221;, he was in charge of the program.  It may be his vacated second final four.  If you don&#8217;t see a trend here, you are blind.  Calipari is old news.  Pastner is the new head coach.   He has picked up an elite recruit for 2010, one that Calipari wanted very badly.  No excuses for 2010, he has a full year to recruit and we&#8217;ll just have to see how he does.  It looks like a good start to me&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: pastaboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pastaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This mindset of the fanbase in here that 2009 is a write off season , poor Josh , bare cupboard , that mean ole Cal stole our team , bwah bwhahhahhhhaahh ...... can you imagine what the sucking sound will be like if Joe Jackson goes to Ky next year? Then all you whack jobs can berate him on these blogs ...... can&#039;t wait ....it&#039;ll be great entertainment .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This mindset of the fanbase in here that 2009 is a write off season , poor Josh , bare cupboard , that mean ole Cal stole our team , bwah bwhahhahhhhaahh &#8230;&#8230; can you imagine what the sucking sound will be like if Joe Jackson goes to Ky next year? Then all you whack jobs can berate him on these blogs &#8230;&#8230; can&#8217;t wait &#8230;.it&#8217;ll be great entertainment .</p>
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		<title>By: pastaboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pastaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again you allow your bitterness to cloud the true facts . Calipari is not under investigation according to the NCAA ...and their opinion matters most here . If you want to blame someone blame Derrick Rose ...he&#039;s the cheater ...he&#039;s the liar ...he&#039;s the one who refuses to be introduced at NBA games as a former Memphis player . Its not Cal&#039;s fault Pastner couldn&#039;t keep Nolan Dennis from going to Baylor ...or the Henry&#039;s from going to Kansas . Its not Cal&#039;s fault Pastner couldn&#039;t land Lance , or Derrick Williams , or Matt Pilgrim , or Nolan Johnson .  The cupboard is bare because Fed Ex botched the coaching search by jacking up expectations ...annoucing a wow hire .... then picking an asst. with no coaching experience as their 5th option .....that&#039;s why the cupboard is bare .Most of these kids don&#039;t want to play for a 1st year guy . Pastner has said numerous times the investigation has no effect on the program going forward , I guess you don&#039;t believe him when he says that because you think it affects recruiting . You must not trust Josh .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again you allow your bitterness to cloud the true facts . Calipari is not under investigation according to the NCAA &#8230;and their opinion matters most here . If you want to blame someone blame Derrick Rose &#8230;he&#8217;s the cheater &#8230;he&#8217;s the liar &#8230;he&#8217;s the one who refuses to be introduced at NBA games as a former Memphis player . Its not Cal&#8217;s fault Pastner couldn&#8217;t keep Nolan Dennis from going to Baylor &#8230;or the Henry&#8217;s from going to Kansas . Its not Cal&#8217;s fault Pastner couldn&#8217;t land Lance , or Derrick Williams , or Matt Pilgrim , or Nolan Johnson .  The cupboard is bare because Fed Ex botched the coaching search by jacking up expectations &#8230;annoucing a wow hire &#8230;. then picking an asst. with no coaching experience as their 5th option &#8230;..that&#8217;s why the cupboard is bare .Most of these kids don&#8217;t want to play for a 1st year guy . Pastner has said numerous times the investigation has no effect on the program going forward , I guess you don&#8217;t believe him when he says that because you think it affects recruiting . You must not trust Josh .</p>
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		<title>By: memtiger87</title>
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		<dc:creator>memtiger87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are definitely bipolar.  One day, Pastner is OK.  The next he is a loser.  Pilgrim would have been a decent stopgap, but he signed elsewhere.  I am not sweating it either way.  It&#039;s hard to recruit when you are under a dark cloud from the NCAA, which is why I find it amazing that we signed Will Barton.  I am not sure why they need 6-8 weeks to decide our fate, but such is life in the NCAA.

We may go 19-14 and the NIT.  I think we will be a NCAA tourney team, but not much more.  I wouldn&#039;t blame it on Pastner, since he had one recruit in 2009 and inherited an NCAA investigation under Calipari.  I&#039;ll bet we do better then USC which faced similar turmoil.  Your boy didn&#039;t do us any favors when he left.  He left a bare cupboard and an investigation, and we should be grateful.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are definitely bipolar.  One day, Pastner is OK.  The next he is a loser.  Pilgrim would have been a decent stopgap, but he signed elsewhere.  I am not sweating it either way.  It&#8217;s hard to recruit when you are under a dark cloud from the NCAA, which is why I find it amazing that we signed Will Barton.  I am not sure why they need 6-8 weeks to decide our fate, but such is life in the NCAA.</p>
<p>We may go 19-14 and the NIT.  I think we will be a NCAA tourney team, but not much more.  I wouldn&#8217;t blame it on Pastner, since he had one recruit in 2009 and inherited an NCAA investigation under Calipari.  I&#8217;ll bet we do better then USC which faced similar turmoil.  Your boy didn&#8217;t do us any favors when he left.  He left a bare cupboard and an investigation, and we should be grateful&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: pastaboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pastaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I&#039;m hearing that monster PF Karron Johnson may go Juco which would open up a spot for Matt .... Memphis &lt;----------- 19 and 14  N.I.T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;m hearing that monster PF Karron Johnson may go Juco which would open up a spot for Matt &#8230;. Memphis &lt;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; 19 and 14  N.I.T</p>
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		<title>By: memtiger87</title>
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		<dc:creator>memtiger87</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think having an NCAA investigation hanging over their head makes it tough to recruit.  I&#039;d be cautious too right now.  Getting quality guys at Memphis will be easier when this thing is done, if it doesn&#039;t effect the present or future of the program.

OK State is a very good program.  Maryland is too.  I think Pilgrim was an insurance policy, and he only was going to be on property for two years.  I liked him better than signing Derrick Williams who would have tied up a scholarship for four years.  He would have been a good pick up, if he will be cleared to play this year by the NCAA.  Since neither one signed, it is a moot point.  I don&#039;t think anyone decent is left unless someone else bails.  I think you can put an end to 2009 recruits....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think having an NCAA investigation hanging over their head makes it tough to recruit.  I&#8217;d be cautious too right now.  Getting quality guys at Memphis will be easier when this thing is done, if it doesn&#8217;t effect the present or future of the program.</p>
<p>OK State is a very good program.  Maryland is too.  I think Pilgrim was an insurance policy, and he only was going to be on property for two years.  I liked him better than signing Derrick Williams who would have tied up a scholarship for four years.  He would have been a good pick up, if he will be cleared to play this year by the NCAA.  Since neither one signed, it is a moot point.  I don&#8217;t think anyone decent is left unless someone else bails.  I think you can put an end to 2009 recruits&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: pastaboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pastaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just did a little checking on OK St......Travis Ford 1st year coach there has already assembed the 11th ranked class .....with PF Karron Johnson leading the way ....hard to imagine Pastner couldn&#039;t sell Pilgrim on Memphis ....Matt will ride the pine there too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just did a little checking on OK St&#8230;&#8230;Travis Ford 1st year coach there has already assembed the 11th ranked class &#8230;..with PF Karron Johnson leading the way &#8230;.hard to imagine Pastner couldn&#8217;t sell Pilgrim on Memphis &#8230;.Matt will ride the pine there too.</p>
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