Comments on: All Signs Point to Lance Landing at Kansas (UPDATED) http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/22/all-signs-point-to-lance-landing-at-kansas/ Adam Zagoria on hoops, recruiting and rock 'n' roll Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:22:35 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: DonnJuan http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/22/all-signs-point-to-lance-landing-at-kansas/comment-page-1/#comment-1108 DonnJuan Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:29:50 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=13817#comment-1108 You guys are correct Gary likes the the scrappy ones that go under the radar. But that is not recruiting, its more like just cleaning the floor. While MD is a great campus and a great college, I would not send my kids there for athletics. The minute that you walk outside the campus you are in another country, and that makes it an unattractive place to go to school. As far as Self is concerned, I will just say that big Colleges don't just pay anyone. You guys are correct Gary likes the the scrappy ones that go under the radar. But that is not recruiting, its more like just cleaning the floor. While MD is a great campus and a great college, I would not send my kids there for athletics. The minute that you walk outside the campus you are in another country, and that makes it an unattractive place to go to school. As far as Self is concerned, I will just say that big Colleges don’t just pay anyone.

]]> By: sgreene25 http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/22/all-signs-point-to-lance-landing-at-kansas/comment-page-1/#comment-1091 sgreene25 Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:04:21 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=13817#comment-1091 Honestley I could go on and on and shred MDFaitful, but what's the point? The guy wishes Maryland had half the respect and love that Kansas gets. Honestley I could go on and on and shred MDFaitful, but what’s the point? The guy wishes Maryland had half the respect and love that Kansas gets.

]]> By: sgreene25 http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/22/all-signs-point-to-lance-landing-at-kansas/comment-page-1/#comment-1090 sgreene25 Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:02:45 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=13817#comment-1090 KennyPowers.....thanks for giving me the chance to respond to MDFaithful. I wish it was more of a task then it is to refute such absurd claims made by a guy like that. Apparently his passion for both Maryland and the A.C.C.. First, thing the biggest cop out someone could use is, "you can have him we don't need him". That is like when Kansas fan's lost Tyler Hansbrough to North Carolina. They would in fact love to have a guy with that type of ability they are just too pissed to admit it and usually seek to descredit the player and then the coach like MDFaithful is doing. First I think its fair to compare Self, and Williams career together. Williams has been a head coach for 31 years and in the time he has one national championship, 2 final four apperances, and 8 sweet sixteen apperances, and has made the tournament 16 times. So just under half the years he has coached he has made the tournament. Bill Self has coached for 16 years just half the time Gary Williams has and has one National Championships (Self did it in a shorter coaching span than Williams) 1 Final Four apperance, 5 Elite Eight apperances, 7 Sweet Sixteen trips, and made it to the tournament 11 times. I will remind you this has been accomplished by Self with half the amount of time Williams has had in his career. If Self coaches 10 more years he is trending to blow Gary Williams career out of the water. To say "Willams finds diamonds in the rough" is a cop out when the real issue is he can't recruit. Which by the way is an absolute shame because the D.C./Baltimore area is known for its wealth in basketball talent. Also their is no point in trying to justify the storied history of Kansas Basketball. I will just point this fact out that most people don't realize that both Adolph Rupp, and Dean Smith two of the greatest coaches of all time both played at Kansas. Maryland basketball doesn't hold a candle to Kansas storied history. KennyPowers…..thanks for giving me the chance to respond to MDFaithful. I wish it was more of a task then it is to refute such absurd claims made by a guy like that. Apparently his passion for both Maryland and the A.C.C.. First, thing the biggest cop out someone could use is, “you can have him we don’t need him”. That is like when Kansas fan’s lost Tyler Hansbrough to North Carolina. They would in fact love to have a guy with that type of ability they are just too pissed to admit it and usually seek to descredit the player and then the coach like MDFaithful is doing.
First I think its fair to compare Self, and Williams career together. Williams has been a head coach for 31 years and in the time he has one national championship, 2 final four apperances, and 8 sweet sixteen apperances, and has made the tournament 16 times. So just under half the years he has coached he has made the tournament. Bill Self has coached for 16 years just half the time Gary Williams has and has one National Championships (Self did it in a shorter coaching span than Williams) 1 Final Four apperance, 5 Elite Eight apperances, 7 Sweet Sixteen trips, and made it to the tournament 11 times. I will remind you this has been accomplished by Self with half the amount of time Williams has had in his career. If Self coaches 10 more years he is trending to blow Gary Williams career out of the water.
To say “Willams finds diamonds in the rough” is a cop out when the real issue is he can’t recruit. Which by the way is an absolute shame because the D.C./Baltimore area is known for its wealth in basketball talent.
Also their is no point in trying to justify the storied history of Kansas Basketball. I will just point this fact out that most people don’t realize that both Adolph Rupp, and Dean Smith two of the greatest coaches of all time both played at Kansas. Maryland basketball doesn’t hold a candle to Kansas storied history.

]]> By: SweedishHamma http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/22/all-signs-point-to-lance-landing-at-kansas/comment-page-1/#comment-1084 SweedishHamma Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:31:46 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=13817#comment-1084 Wow. MDfaithful. Self can't coach? He's won virtually every National Coach of the Year award. He has a national championship. He's taken 3 different teams to the Elite Eight. The Illinois team that lost to North Carolina was Self's team coached by someone else. Last season, Self had a full roster of his recruits (minus the line Roy holdover - Jeremy Case). He won. Self is one of the best in-game coaches in the nation. The fact that he can recruit is just gravy. Self can get those 4 and 5 star recruits on a consistent basis because he has won on a national stage on a consistent basis. Aside from that, it's pretty classless to bash a great player like Sherron Collins. He's the only upperclassman on the roster who plays significant minutes and he led this team to the Sweet Sixteen. Also, we will enjoy our one title. We will also enjoy the four (4) others that we have. We will also enjoy the 51 conference titles. So, you can enjoy your one title, because it won't be happening in College Park ever again. Wow. MDfaithful. Self can’t coach? He’s won virtually every National Coach of the Year award. He has a national championship. He’s taken 3 different teams to the Elite Eight. The Illinois team that lost to North Carolina was Self’s team coached by someone else. Last season, Self had a full roster of his recruits (minus the line Roy holdover – Jeremy Case). He won. Self is one of the best in-game coaches in the nation. The fact that he can recruit is just gravy. Self can get those 4 and 5 star recruits on a consistent basis because he has won on a national stage on a consistent basis.

Aside from that, it’s pretty classless to bash a great player like Sherron Collins. He’s the only upperclassman on the roster who plays significant minutes and he led this team to the Sweet Sixteen.

Also, we will enjoy our one title. We will also enjoy the four (4) others that we have. We will also enjoy the 51 conference titles. So, you can enjoy your one title, because it won’t be happening in College Park ever again.

]]> By: DonnJuan http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/22/all-signs-point-to-lance-landing-at-kansas/comment-page-1/#comment-1074 DonnJuan Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:15:48 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=13817#comment-1074 Nor will it Happen this year!!!!! Nor will it Happen this year!!!!!

]]> By: therealnate http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/22/all-signs-point-to-lance-landing-at-kansas/comment-page-1/#comment-1073 therealnate Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:21:55 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=13817#comment-1073 Lance has got to come to kansas we need another scorer. we don't have a natural one except for sherron lance and him will ball out. Sherron can't do everything. We will have to b the favorite for the tourney next year. We will be loaded with 2 7 footers cole and withey, so many bodies inside the twins, quintrell thomas, thomas robinson oh my goodness. then on the wings we got lance and tyshawn, tyrell, releford, johnson, and moringstar. what a team lance will start and ball out might average 15 to 20 a game. we need that everybody was scared last night to shoot the ball lance will not be scared and it will eleavate his game to play with such a great team around him I can't wait to play memphis is saint louis next year and I cant wait to see mizzou we gonna beat them down and put them in their place. Lance has got to come to kansas we need another scorer. we don’t have a natural one except for sherron lance and him will ball out. Sherron can’t do everything. We will have to b the favorite for the tourney next year. We will be loaded with 2 7 footers cole and withey, so many bodies inside the twins, quintrell thomas, thomas robinson oh my goodness. then on the wings we got lance and tyshawn, tyrell, releford, johnson, and moringstar. what a team lance will start and ball out might average 15 to 20 a game. we need that everybody was scared last night to shoot the ball lance will not be scared and it will eleavate his game to play with such a great team around him I can’t wait to play memphis is saint louis next year and I cant wait to see mizzou we gonna beat them down and put them in their place.

]]> By: Big Ben http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/22/all-signs-point-to-lance-landing-at-kansas/comment-page-1/#comment-1072 Big Ben Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:05:36 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=13817#comment-1072 May want to sit a few out, MDFaithful. Your lack of knowledge regarding college basketball is embarrassing Maryland fans around the world. May want to sit a few out, MDFaithful. Your lack of knowledge regarding college basketball is embarrassing Maryland fans around the world.

]]> By: MDfaithful http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/22/all-signs-point-to-lance-landing-at-kansas/comment-page-1/#comment-1071 MDfaithful Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:01:39 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=13817#comment-1071 KennyPowers....scoreboard! Sherron Collins great clutch free throw shooter. Overrated program, enjoy all the five star recruits, Self still can't coach. Only went one round further than a MD program that preseason was picked last in the ACC! The only f***ing delusional poster here is you. Gary built MD from the ashes to a national championship team with one star recruits...Self won a national title by the grace of Memphis handing it to them by another awful game coach! How can you be coach of the year when your only big win was against a Blake-less OK, and you lost in the first round of the Big 12 tourney. A team full of 5 star and 4 star recruits...Please, enjoy your one title, it won't be happening anytime soon in Lawrence. KennyPowers….scoreboard! Sherron Collins great clutch free throw shooter. Overrated program, enjoy all the five star recruits, Self still can’t coach. Only went one round further than a MD program that preseason was picked last in the ACC! The only f***ing delusional poster here is you. Gary built MD from the ashes to a national championship team with one star recruits…Self won a national title by the grace of Memphis handing it to them by another awful game coach! How can you be coach of the year when your only big win was against a Blake-less OK, and you lost in the first round of the Big 12 tourney. A team full of 5 star and 4 star recruits…Please, enjoy your one title, it won’t be happening anytime soon in Lawrence.

]]> By: KennyPowers http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/22/all-signs-point-to-lance-landing-at-kansas/comment-page-1/#comment-1069 KennyPowers Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:36:22 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=13817#comment-1069 Maryland fans f***ing baffle me... Just completely delusional. I could dissect and rip this post apart with ease, but since I stole theruckus33's thunder with the last moron I'm gonna fall back and let him respond to this mindless dribble. Maryland fans f***ing baffle me… Just completely delusional. I could dissect and rip this post apart with ease, but since I stole theruckus33’s thunder with the last moron I’m gonna fall back and let him respond to this mindless dribble.

]]> By: MDfaithful http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/03/22/all-signs-point-to-lance-landing-at-kansas/comment-page-1/#comment-1068 MDfaithful Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:21:19 +0000 http://www.zagsblog.com/?p=13817#comment-1068 Let Lance go to Kansas, they have no shot at a national title next. It's a collection of players, not a team. I'm watching them play right now and let me tell you they have no chance, MD beat Mich St. this year. Stephenson would be a disaster at MD, he could never play for a coach like Gary, an actual basketball coach. This guy has some unreal b-ball talent, but HS and college are completely different. He will have a rude awakening much like OJ Mayo. Stephenson has a fair outside shot and most of his points come against overmatched high schoolers. He will be okay in college, but probably better in the pros. So enjoy him Kansas fans, he will surely disappoint. As for Gary Williams, he's been forced into recruiting Stephenson by all the idiot fans of MD. He does not want players like him anyways, with all the handling B.S. MD has a great center recruit, some other solid players. If Vasquez stays, MD will go farther in the tournament next year than Kansas even with Stephenson, guaranteed! I like Gary's style of taking lower tiered recruits and winning with them, that's why I like MD. If he had half the talent of Kansas, he wouldn't have lost in the first round so many times (Gary has 8 straight 1st round wins & a national title since 2000). Let Lance go to Kansas, they have no shot at a national title next. It’s a collection of players, not a team. I’m watching them play right now and let me tell you they have no chance, MD beat Mich St. this year. Stephenson would be a disaster at MD, he could never play for a coach like Gary, an actual basketball coach. This guy has some unreal b-ball talent, but HS and college are completely different. He will have a rude awakening much like OJ Mayo. Stephenson has a fair outside shot and most of his points come against overmatched high schoolers. He will be okay in college, but probably better in the pros. So enjoy him Kansas fans, he will surely disappoint.

As for Gary Williams, he’s been forced into recruiting Stephenson by all the idiot fans of MD. He does not want players like him anyways, with all the handling B.S. MD has a great center recruit, some other solid players. If Vasquez stays, MD will go farther in the tournament next year than Kansas even with Stephenson, guaranteed! I like Gary’s style of taking lower tiered recruits and winning with them, that’s why I like MD. If he had half the talent of Kansas, he wouldn’t have lost in the first round so many times (Gary has 8 straight 1st round wins & a national title since 2000).

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